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Post by OddChild on Oct 9, 2006 8:18:47 GMT -5
Can't UPX (included in brutus installation) be used as a EXE binder as well?
If not.. Anyone, know of any good ones? I have been looking around today, and only found ones for old windows... Nothing that would support XP.
Thx
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Post by Kuron on Oct 9, 2006 15:47:15 GMT -5
Normally, I would recommend MoleBox, but with the way that Brutus creates its EXEs, it will not work with MoleBox. You might try Alloy and see if it works with Brutus: www.pgware.com/products/alloy/Alloy is not secure, but from reading the specs it "should" work with Brutus. I can't test it as I don't have Brutus installed. I wrote my own "exe wrapper" for my personal use, but I am keeping it for my personal use.
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Post by OddChild on Oct 10, 2006 14:40:47 GMT -5
it costs 100 bucks lol... ill keep looking, i am begining to doubt that there are any freeware wrappers. i bet if you put yours as freeware you would get a bunch of traffic though.
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Post by Guilect on Oct 10, 2006 19:11:16 GMT -5
from another post here. (Good if you have a small number of files to wrap.)
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Post by Kuron on Oct 11, 2006 4:00:00 GMT -5
Could you please REMOVE that post along with any other posts referring to that program. Joe is dead, the "full" version of "TheWrap" is not even available and it is pathetic to take advantage of a dead person by endlessly using the "trial" version of one of their programs.
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Post by OddChild on Oct 11, 2006 4:35:39 GMT -5
TheWrap is a good program. I would use it, but I have more than 16 files to wrap.
I do not see the point in stop using his programs just because he is dead. He wasnt making it for the money, atleast it doesnt seem so after reading a bit about him.
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Post by Guilect on Oct 11, 2006 6:36:22 GMT -5
Facts: you do not take advantage of someone by using their trial version of something. You do not have to stop using a piece of software because the author has passed away. You do not have to check with the author's town record department to see if there is a death certicate for them on file before downloading anything off of the web. Trial versions are meant to be used with what ever restrictions are imposed upon them by the author. Bypassing those restrictions is what is not allowed. theWrap is a good program. Opinions: Joe would not mind people using the trial version that he put up for people to use. Other: Here is a very nice exe binder. Freeware too. description from the site: www.cobans.net/joiner.phpRight-Clickin open area to add files. Then Select a file(s) and Right-Click; goto Advanced to set its properties. Enjoy.
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Post by Kuron on Oct 11, 2006 22:19:53 GMT -5
Bypassing those restrictions is the only possible way you can use TheWrap. There is a free trial version of TheWrap, If you like that trial version and you intend to use it, you are required to register the program (just like all Shareware, and just like Brutus): From TheWrap site: From the docs: You certainly would not like people illegally using Brutus2D, would you? Heck, I am a registered Brutus2D user, I love Brutus2D and I haven't been able to even use Brutus due to the extreme protection you use to protect your product *100% my problem, not yours*. Aren't other software authors entitled to the same things you are? You obviously expect people to pay for your software and not illegally use it. I have a feeling that Guilect's account may have been hacked, as this doesn't sound like Guilect. I would love to, unfortunately I wrote it using PureBasic and for compression, I used the compression library that comes with PureBasic. Unfortunately, PB has nasty restrictions on its libraries. You can use the libraries for your own use, but you cannot simply "wrap" the libraries and make them available for others to use. Since I have never got a straight answer from the developer of PB, I do not know if I can legally release my wrapper program as it is now without violating my PB license. I have played with rewriting it in other languages, but the resulting footprint is too big for my taste. In all honesty, MicroJoiner v1.7 looks to be the best "exe wrapper" out there and will be what I now use and suggest
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Post by Guilect on Oct 12, 2006 6:43:20 GMT -5
All good points Kuron. Just a couple of clarifications if I may. Maybe that is the case with theWRAP but not quite so with Brutus. No one is required to register Brutus2D even if they use the un-registered version all the time. If all you want to do is to use it to learn how to program, or run your programs or even other peoples source code from the IDE, they can do that forever and for free. They only need to register in order to make an exe. In Japan (and other countries) if in a discussion one party is wrong and and the other if found out to be right; the party who is correct will find a way to allow the party who is wrong to 'save face'. I believe that Kuron's statement above is his way to try to let me 'save face'. Alas, the account was not hacked. Anyway, shall we move on... MicroJoiner: I have had this program on my PC and have played around with it for ~2 years. No Problems with it except the user interface stinks. I have often thought, given enough time on this planet, that I would make my own interface GUI that would produce a MicroJoiner project file. This file would then be feed into MicroJoiner to let it do its thing. Another note about MicroJoiner is that, like all file bundlers, it can be used to attach viruses and trojans to legitimate exe files. Therefore some anti-virus programs, when they see a bundled file with the MicroJoiner stub, will falsely flag the file as suspicious.
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Post by OddChild on Oct 12, 2006 7:23:27 GMT -5
i noticed when bundling MIDI files to a project, that it automaticly tries to play them... even when the "run" flag is off... I imagine that is my fault though, since you said you have used it for years...
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Post by Guilect on Oct 12, 2006 8:10:30 GMT -5
At the moment I do not have a midi file.
But I just bound an exe with a long wav file. I flagged the wav as do not run. The exe ran and there was no attempt by the system to try to run the wav file. Can you try with a wav (mp3, etc.) file, maybe it is a bug only with .mid files???
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